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Posted - 2014.01.21 11:16:00 -
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Hello
I posted an update recently in the old rapid missile thread on this topic but I assume many of you haven't been watching that so I'm making a new thread for the time being with some updates for 1.1.
The basic gist is that we aren't satisfied with some of the pain points resulting from the change (especially ammo swapping) and want to continue to iterate until they are in the best possible place. For this patch we weren't able to get in a fix for the ammo swapping. We tried a few versions and all of them had enough issues that we didn't feel comfortable deploying. For 1.1 we are going to do the following:
All rapid missile launchers will have 35 second reload timers rather than 40 seconds
Rapid Light Missile launchers will have their capacity increased to 20 missiles per magazine for tech 2 and 19 missiles per magazine for tech 1
Rapid Heavy Missile launchers will have their capacity increased to 25 missiles per magazine for tech 2 and 24 missiles per magazine for tech 1
This change is meant to increase their power slightly, and make them feel a little better to use by cutting down the reload time.
We were looking at a really wide range of options for these systems since the initial reaction was so negative, but over the last few weeks we started seeing more and more people adjust to using them and even start liking them, so, rather than make drastic changes so quickly we want to give it more time and see what happens with usage and feedback over the next couple months. Large changes are still on the table and I won't be finished with this until we address the ammo swapping issue.
Thanks for reading and responding
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Posted - 2014.01.21 14:38:00 -
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Please focus on the part of the post where I said we considered bigger changes because of how people felt about the extended reload in general, but decided to make a tweak and wait for more data and feedback rather than reversing things too quickly.
If you want to help us out on this topic, try to give specific reasons or examples and then just hang in there and watch for updates heading into the next few months.
Also, a small response to the comparison with jamming: I think parts of the experience are obviously the same (not being able to fire for a period of time), but there a lot of other parts to compensate (or at least that is the idea). With RML you get to choose when that period of time will be, you get to control a lot of factors that contribute to how significant that period of time is (how your ship is fit, where you're located in space, what targets you choose etc), and you get the huge benefit of very high front-loaded damage. Not disregarding the fact that not being able to shoot doesn't feel good, just pointing out that they are different situations in some important ways. |
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Posted - 2014.01.28 11:25:00 -
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It seems the changes posted here didn't make it into the patch notes for some reason but they will still be going into the patch. Sorry for any confusion. |
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Posted - 2014.02.03 16:12:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Kynric wrote:After playing with the module a bit I find that I both like and hate it. The ammo swap problem is the main issue I have with the current rlml. The ability to select a damage type is one if the defining traits for missiles and this feature makes it impractical to use that trait. The alternative (heavy missles) is poor enough to perhaps keep rlmls in play but that should not be interpreted as happiness with the rlml. Please consider fixing the ammo swap, if that were done the module woukd be in a much better place. The best solution woudl be what one guy suggested. To reload full set of missiles.. 35 seconds. To replace 1 missile only (U used only 1 before reload) you spend 35/20 seconds... in other words.. time of reload linear to the ammount that need to be reloaded.
The big problem with this is that currently you have two options in the drop down, one for reloading the same and one for switching to a new type. If we did what you're talking about we would need three options, one for reloading current ammo to full, one for swapping to new kind of ammo but same amount of charges, and one for swapping to new type of ammo at max charges. We could do that, but it would add anywhere from one to several rows to the right click menu and would also probably be pretty confusing to a lot of users.
I would prefer if we could find something like making the reload time only 10 seconds unless you have a weapon timer. This exact solution doesn't work because of how NPC timer works, but from the user perspective it's much cleaner. We wouldn't have to clog up any menus or make any new explanations about how the mechanic worked.
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